thanks for joining us. >> very close night as we expected. so far we're talking 82 electoral votes for governor romney versus 64 for president obama. once we know the winner the work begins. who is better at handling the biggest issue that we face over the near term? the fiscal cliff? >> i think it's even steven. neither candidate has offered to cut anything. i think spending is a problem. i think the way we budget our money is a problem. this baseline budgeting is just horrible and they don't talk about that. they talk about the programs they want to keep. i think it would be even. i wouldn't expect a whole lot of difference. there will be a little benefit with romney on maybe getting taxes cut. and maybe less war with obama. but neither one is assured it. we heard promises so often over the years of the dramatic difference and this is a crucial election. that has been burnt out on that over many decades because we have elections and policies continue exactly the same way. government gets bigger. debt gets